20170327 Dr Oren Amitay and the Ontario Psychological Association

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Okay So Im Speaking With Her Orin Amity

and you may remember that Dr. Emma T had invited me a while back to speak at Ryerson University on a Saturday and that’s been a rather popular UK video and he’s been defending me and making comments about free speech on the Ontario Psychological Association list Sir that’s correct if I got the details right yeah well, maybe you could tell everybody what’s been happening. Okay sure so back in November. One of our members that won’t put out her name, but she wrote a piece where she basically. I would say what I wrote.

She Basically Said That You Shouldnt

have a forum for discussing what you were supposed to discuss and that was the talk that you were going to have by the University of Toronto. The debate right the debate exactly and so she wrote a piece and put online and she posted to the listserv and I essentially wrote in my email to the listserv. I’ve written a number of comments about this and mostly I’ve been saying every time one of your stories comes up or another similar story comes up. I’m posting it they’re saying look this is what’s going on. This is not some mad rambling.

This Is A Legitimate Concern About Ideology Run

Amok and either I get met by silence or I get people. You know asking me why I’m so angry or why I’m taking so personally or I get people email me back channel. Will see older people most of the older psychologists who say we support you completely over afraid to say anything because of the consequences and what do you think their what consequences? Do you think they’re afraid of that I don’t know I mean I some of them work with these colleagues. Others may be trying to get professorships. They’re trying to get tenure and they’re afraid that these people who do a hold you know positions in artha in academia could hold them down.

I Think That Right Answer.

It’s a perverse effect of the tenure system because it tends to silence people before they have tenure and so and of course they practice being silent and by the time they do have tenure. If you practice being silent for eight or ten years then or six years for that matter, then it’s going to be pretty hard to. break that habit so so what so? What are they objecting to regards to your postings? So whenever I post something it starts off pretty neutrally and I’ve written a long message to the Ontario Psychological Association. I sent to the president I asked him to read it to them.

They Are Convening Or They Had Convened A

meeting to deal with this issue and it was very very long and I said I have not actually done anything wrong. I post links to stories such as yours at the last Friday one annex master and then somebody it goes one of two ways either somebody will impugn my character or my motives. Recently. Somebody had implied that your message is full of hate. They actually use that word and someone was hate in his heart.

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You Know So And By Extension

myself or the elastic question and I will. address it but good for the most part there mischaracterizing one in skating and so I’ll simply say look I did not say that show me where I said that and more often than not. They’re not taking on any specific issue. It just be the theme because on the UK apparently if you’re on one side of an issue, it’s okay if you occupy a different position they won’t accept it and so what what do you think is going to happen and what have people like you said they’ve convened in a so-called emergency meeting about this issue and right so do you have any idea why it’s an emergency and and and what what they’re planning to do well. I think they consider an emergency because one of the board members she’s the one who wrote that piece saying that you shouldn’t have this debate and I.

Took Umbrage At A Post I Wrote

where you know she’s from Boise and you know I don’t say this like I’m not being facetious, and she annoys me and I never see for you instituted this studies in education for those of you who don’t know and it’s you might. If you were feeling charitable you would recall it regarding ideologically possessed right so so she’s from a lazy and she’s the one who wrote the piece and then somebody else from always he wrote was with anybody any reasonable person would say it was a fair comment which she was crazy was trying to say. Look can we all just be a bit more to life in our tone more respectful and this is by the point that we should all aspire to which I don’t disagree with but the problem is. She’s also from a lazy and. There’s a sub to the message which is basically this message is directed at me so what I did was I wrote and by the way she posted this after the president had already shut down the discussion as soon as he shuts it down.

Eirick You Know I Retract Im Not

going to say anything but the two other people put postings on and they know directly you know basically like I said the same day they mischaracterize me and they look main try to make me look bad and so I spoke out and in one of my pieces. I said to her if you really believe in what you’re saying I said please make sure you apply this to the people who are on the other side the ones who are calling to shut down this discussion. I said, I know you say did the president of the UK shut down the discussion What exactly does that mean? How does he I believe how does he do that and why did he do it well? He sends out an email and says please This is getting a bit out of hand. Will you please not talk about this that’s about the extent of it and reasonable people will refrain I shouldn’t say reasonable let’s say people are try not to cause conflict we’ll we’ll stop posting in which I have done and their concern is I think that the tone gets out of hand and again. I don’t think there’s any tone The worst you can say about my tone is it’s blunt.

Theres No Name-Calling Its Literally Every

single time I say show me where I said this you know or if you eat Yo your. That or I say your argument is irrational victorious It’s irrelevant basically you know don’t appeal to emotion we’re dealing with facts here let’s deal with them and you know and if you’re on do you have any examples of the sort of things that you’ve posted that you could really share with us certainly so in one of the posting so it’s woman who again posted something that seemed reasonable. I basically said to her I said something I’ll just read a couple paragraphs. Some members might find my direct rational logical and fact-based backspacing messages not only with respect to the issues themselves, but also with respect to claims made by those who disagree with me. For instance, when I respectfully state please show me where I staggered is this to be rude offensive or inappropriate which to me is a gross misuse of such term.

However, Some.

Those same people have directly staged or implied that I am a misogynist, a transpose a bigoted hateful, reprehensible, unreasonable and unwilling or unable to engage in respectful discourse. The next step is where I got where things got heated. I said, moreover, and I mentioned the year. The colleague I alluded to a few minutes ago.

Explicitly Stated Honestly Serve In November That She

did not believe that Jordan Pederson should have been given a forum to discuss what any reasonable person would agree is far from an unequivocal issue. She posted a link I posted to an online article she co–wrote and this is critical that stated her reasons for what most objective people should find a concern and call for censorship of not only non–lethal ideas, but also scientific investigation and discussion as well as civil debate about poorly conceptualized and worded legislation that could potentially cause. that and her response was she actually posted a response and I am nurture Merkel quite some time enemies Rita she posted or an amicus. I have just as much right to express my opinion as anyone else. I already put you on notice one, but I will say it again please leave me alone that’s what I think led to the emergency meeting and you know look at the context.

I Have Every Right I Have Just

as much right to express my opinion as any well. I agree with that, but why would she be calling for other people not to have that same right This Harper C is astounding and so we are going to happen. I really don’t know they may ask me to you know to lead the UK They may ask me to leave the listserv I wanted to be UK strong its advocate. Begs you know I every time I’m in the media. I will mention the work that they do.

They Do A Lot Of Extra Work,

including the presence of an UK. He’s not excellent work for homelessness and for promoting psychology. So the worst they can do is is try to pick me out. I know that this member in question was trying to enact something against me Some kind of consensual a more formal censure it never happened aside for public review of Honor on what grounds precisely I mean you read some of the things that you written. I mean, why is it that you’re being targeted well first for an emergency meeting, which seems a bit like overkill, but perhaps it isn’t but what is it that there what is it that they have on you so to speak that would result in in censoring of that.

Sort They Literally Have Nothing Because

I’ve not called anybody names you know even when I called a member immature. I didn’t name them at all so the worst they can say is a tone might become a bit hostile, but this is what worries me. I again. I might be forceful. I might be blunt.

I Might Be Repetitive And Theyre

both. But I stick to the fact. This is a and right and the problem is those facts on the wrong side of their ideology and that’s what’s propelling them and telling them and the other thing is that as I mentioned IeV sees concrete dozens of complaints from members who this is what is incredible who are basically saying that they do not want they can’t tolerate the distress that comes along with knowing that I’m writing emails to a listserv and that they might you know. give up their membership? This is the kind of video that’s going on and again. If you look at my post and I’ve written to the UK and every time someone criticizes me.

I Specifically Write Show Me One Thing

that I’ve written that’s inappropriate or offensive and no one’s ever felt and they can’t. Can you have a record of all these postings. I presume I have them all yet and there are is there anything in them that you would be. I mean that you’ve written that you would be unwilling to make public assuming that.

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Summary

Orin Amity was invited by Dr. Emma T to speak at Ryerson University on a Saturday and that’s been a rather popular UK video and he’s been defending me and making comments about free speech on the Ontario Psychological Association list . Orin wrote a piece where she basically said that you shouldn’t have a forum for discussing what you were supposed to discuss and that was the talk that you were going to have by the University of Toronto. The debate right the debate exactly and so she wrote a . piece and put online and she posted to the listserv and I essentially wrote in my email to the . listserv.& I’ve written a number of . comments about this and mostly I’ve been saying every time one of your stories comes up or another similar story comes up. I’m posting it they’re saying look this is what’s going on. This is not some mad rambling.& This is a legitimate concern about ideology run Amok and either I . get people….. Click here to read more and watch the full video