Douglas Murray Gives His Thoughts On Cancel Culture

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What Is The Cancellation Sphere That Thats Out There

in the world at the moment well The clear one that does exist is the attempt to find people whose employment is vulnerable to mob stampeding so you know somebody says something on Twitter, for instance, in support of somebody that Twitter doesn’t like and their Twitter then finds where they work and you know lobbies their boss until they’re sacked something that that’s that’s that’s the aim and there’s lots of sort of versions of that um lobby a company pretend that you know the company’s to lose masses of money because just destroyed its market. You know capability because everyone’s unhappy with it um that stuff does go on um but you’re not happy with that being called cancel culture well no no no it’s not that I what I’m what I’m worried about is that we get stuck. on it um because I believe it’s much more important to focus on what is winning and what winning looks like and you know there is a certain you notice this in American journalism a bit more than you do here there is a bit of Oh! I was so nearly canceled. Oh I was cancelled there’s a sort of certain you know you always have it in writing because writers are a very self–obsessed bunch and and tend to think of themselves as being brave. I mean you know Mark Stein made a famous quip years ago You know like writers are forever giving each other awards for bravery and you know you don’t all of the professions where they’re you know like you’ve got to run into burning buildings and save people they’re like they don’t spend all their time talking about bravery awards you know but but.

Very Big On Bravery And Writers Like

quite a lot of writers like the idea that they’re sort of you know edgy and and all that sort of thing and so they say the idea of being cancelled a little bit you know for them. I don’t really care about that stuff. I I care about people saying what they think and I’m really I really think that people should not pay so much attention to a very very rarefied and demented minority of people and I don’t think we should give these people the right to dictate the cultural weather in any way in any way. Why should a small demented group of people who believe that the big bearded man with a penis is a woman if he says he is that they should dictate the cultural weather across the country and make major authors have to fear. for their careers and make all politicians become gibbering wrecks when the subject comes up? Why should that be the case? Why can’t we just have discussions out in a reasonable fashion and you know advance your case the best of your capability, but you don’t do that I think we’ve given in issue after issue very deranged minorities minorities of minorities.

The Right To Basically Dictate The

weather and and we don’t need to because on any estimation on any estimation. You know most of those people are not doing that well you know the authors who are the anti–rolling people are not doing as well as her so why not you know why not say actually the person. The point about this is is to say the person in your life you should want to be is Jk rowling not just because you should want to be rich. You should want to be in a position in your life where you can tell the truth that should be the position you aim for and I’m worried that all of this sort of actually encourages people to say the position I would like to sort of hold in my life will be the one where nobody notices me and nobody comes for me and I sort of get away with it and then die how vanilla can I spend the remainder of my life. I’d like to be somewhere in between the color eggplant and beige absolutely on the on the great color chart of humanity human experience and that’s but that’s what that’s what that’s what they’re doing and I I just I think we should encourage people not not to play that game.

Its Hard Right If Youve Hit On Something

there that people like yourself or. Sam Harris or JK Rowling by virtue of success or financial backing or a level of independence with regards to your platform or whatever it might be have taken great got in great lengths to make yourself uncounselable but not everyone has that luxury sure no no I don’t I don’t underestimate it at all um I just my experience in life is that I’ve always said what I think and it’s worked well not done you that’s that’s the thing I said before our first podcast like how do we get through all of these topics without stepping on a landmine and you increasingly just sort of do a a ballerina dance through this land yeah back and forth to think it’s slightly more butch than that but but I agree it’s something like it’s somewhere in that yeah yeah a newer af like leaps around like that that’s. What you’re that was the image that was in your mind? I’ve got this image of you in a pink tutu that’s just dancing through a minefield, but that’s we’re too close here now. I’m just thrilled that the image is in your mind UK but but no. I mean I yeah that’s my experience um it is not to say that it’s completely easy.

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I Mean You Know You You Have To

do your work and you have to work hard you have to you know weigh your words and you speak them as when you write them, but you you know any normal person would anyway and um but yeah I I I just I think we’ve got to change the um. You know there’s this thing that’s gone on in our era In general. I think it’s came out last time that that we’ve moved from the heroic mood in the society to the victim mood. You know we’ve moved in general from the who is the person who’s been most heroic in their lives to the sort of celebration of whoever’s can say they’ve been the most victimized and this is all a little bit of that. It’s a little offshoot of it and I’m not really that interested in victimhood not because I’m um hard-hearted or anything like that it’s just that my observation of life is that we can all of us whinge endlessly if we want to about our lot because human experience is extraordinary in lots of ways and will always include an awful lot of mundanity and pain and grief and much much more so we could all do it um.

Im Just Not Sure That Our

society. encourage it as much as it does I think you’re right There’s an interesting translation change that I came across recently um the Buddha said life is suffering, but the word of suffering is Duca Duka and as with all ancient translations, it’s a nearest closest term that they try to find right and suffering was one of the translations but there’s some scholars that contest that it’s not suffering it’s unsatisfactoriness. Life is unsatisfactoriness and if you spend a lot of time in evolutionary psychology, you realize that that unsatisfactoriness is fitness enhancing if you were yes absolutely fully actualized upon killing your first bison. You’d never kill another bison upon having sex the first time you’d never have sex again Exactly I I do know people like that but the come on no you’re right look at the unsatisf with the accretion of wealth never get enough of.

It Um Its Not The Best Way

to do it, but it’s it’s one thing Yes unsatisfiedness is is isn’t an entirely bad thing um it’s an enormous drive for a lot of people. it’s it’s obviously one of the things behind ambition and and yes I I think there’s a there’s There’s an awful lot of things going on in our age. But we we should try to identify the things that we are erroneously holding up as good and I do think I do think that holding up victimhood is as not just good, but meaning that you especially deserve a platform or a microphone, has turned out to be a an unhelpful way to start a new generation off in this world. It’s a Jordan petersonism right where he talks about the fact that a rabbit isn’t inherently good because it’s unable to commit evil it’s.

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The Enacting Your Shadow Fully Fully Internalizing

your shadow from the Jungian perspective and the same with that like you you very correct. There is no bravery in avoiding courageous challenges right and and one of the things again. I really touched on this We last met but one of the things I’m particularly worried about in this era is what’s happening to men in all of this because men seem to me the primary people at the moment who have been persuaded to lessen their capabilities, lessen the things they could achieve and sort of just find a way to get through this strange period that we’re in and and it’s it’s not healthy. It’s not healthy for men.

Its Not Healthy For Women.

. It makes very unhappy men and it makes they unhappy women because women don’t want those men you.

Summary

What is the cancellation sphere that that’s out there in the world at the moment well . The clear one that does exist is the attempt to find people whose employment is vulnerable to mob stampeding so you know somebody says something on Twitter, for instance, in support of somebody that Twitter doesn’t like and their Twitter then finds where they work and you know lobbies their boss until they’re sacked . I believe it’s much more important to focus on what is winning and what winning looks like and I’m really I really think that people should not pay so much attenti to the cancellation culture well no no no it’s not that I what I’m worried about is that we get stuck.& on it um because I’m what I am worried about. I don’t really care about that stuff.& I I care about people saying what they think and I care for people say what they say. I’m very happy with people saying they want to be able to do what I want to do…. Click here to read more and watch the full video