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I Dont Remember What The Occasion Was, But

I was having dinner with some friends and one of them said Oh, you have to meet Have you met Jean and I said no oh. You have to meet him and they told me your story and I said can you call him Can he come to dinner and you came to dinner and your story is one of the it’s the best horrible, yet unbelievably positive stories and I have ever heard well tell me. Jean 1977 how old were you 17 sophomore in high school, finishing up the year pretty good athlete football track girlfriend not at the time Mm-HmM and went out drinking one night with an older cousin. He was 24 and went out the door against my mother. ‘s wishes pretty much but we sweet-talked her and about UK at night had no business being out that.

You Did You Know Your Your Cousin

was kind of a bad guy did Dule he he had been in prison before he had been out and but one of the things I had a great respect for him was because he treated my mother so well and since my mother went through some hard relationships. My cousin always came to the rescue. So I had a fond Rees, but I had a great respect for a man who treated my mother well. So he’s behind the wheel of the car. A step brother, an older stepbrother drove us okay.

We Left The Three Of Us

left the kitchen table drinking playing pool playing cards went shot some pool my cousin wanna shoot some pool so we went to a local tavern and 20 minutes or so into shooting pool drinking shots he turns and says I’m gonna rob this. place to our surprise and he was serious and so did you know he was serious Yeah. I think I Levi did and the idea was look We were not going to do it. If you’re gonna do it. We’ll leave so the plan was to leave the bar in the car drive down the street park.

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Let Him Come Back And Well Wait

for you and you were a getaway car yeah and you so we knew all the buses We knew we was He was gonna rob the bar okay and so we. He walked back up into the bar and by the time I got at the car and I stood in a parking lot somewhere near the and he didn’t come out right away and we heard some banging. We walked up to the bar and he had murdered the owner. Yes stabbed the owner to. death using bottles oh my gosh and he just went crazy, so we yelled to him to stop.

I Did And My Step-Brother And I

we hung around the bay. He said come in help find some money. We walked in and about 10 minutes. He found a box found about a thousand dollars of cash and took it and my step-brother left he left and went home. I left what my cousin went to New York City.

I Knew I Knew I Was I

know I was in trouble the significance the weight of it. It didn’t hit me until a sobered up when you when you saw a dead man woman dead woman yeah. It was a the owner of the bar, what went through your head well intimidated scared caught up in that with my cousin and and it was dark it was behind a counter any. We have to call the police No. I was I was too into it as far as I’m falling a martyr yeah.

Im Part Of That Im Following Him.

I I love my cousin a lot. I just had a I had a head of respect for him and I had a somewhat like a as a hero type sadly dysfunctionalNK], how does I mean I’m trying to get into your frame of mind. Here on were you a bad kid No I wasn’t. I was high school.

I Wasnt A Good Student, But I Was

a good athlete. I was in school all the time not something you would. I mean you would have no beating anybody up or I mean. I had some school fights and stuff like that but we’re in a juvenile dog. No okay.

I Grew Up On A Dairy Farm

and worked on. on a dairy farm and and my cousin came came for that weekend from New Jersey and I lived in Northeast, Pennsylvania. So he came and so how much how much shock were you in because this seems like if this if I and maybe I can react exactly the same way where I walk in and I’m like Oh hey I’m not gonna call the police but I I I mean I think you just be in shock. You didn’t expect you didn’t know when everything never thought because it would have been never never they never crossed my mind that it was gone this far when I went to the bar to shoot pool with him. I thought it was cool it was it was a timeout.

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You Know It Was Like Getting Outside The

house. It was it was fun and and it just snowball from there. And no inkling beforehand that he wanted to even rob the place. No okay not at all so how you go to New York City go to New York City walking the streets. He he said he had a plan to get a.

He Said He Had A Plan To Get

away do something and I was just kind of following I was in a. I was this in a following mode really if I can if I can just put you in my mindset. I was just following him and it wasn’t. It wasn’t good but that’s that’s what yeah choice of me so walking the streets he was shooting heroin. He used the money to buy dope and I found myself in shooting galleries up in Spanish Harlem and looking around and people laying around and what you’d see as an in movies I was I was right.

There I Was Just Overwhelming Walking The Streets

nope no clue what was going on sleeping slept overnight in a hotel it’s 1977. There’s no cell phones. There’s nothing it’s a different world. Yeah It’s still a still world of people listening to music on UK radio Yeah and and so the next day notified my my parents that I was turning myself in and my cousin said you can run with me or you can turn yourself in and I I knew I knew I wanted to go home. I knew that wasn’t for me.

I Mean I Sobered Up.

I realized that I was in severe you know serious trouble not. I had no idea what faced when I was facing but you were willing to face it. Yeah, So I came back and would your mother say the first thing the first thing So I took a bus back They put me on a bus. The police put me on a bus to turn myself.

So You Turn Yourself Up In

high New York yes and a Port Authority and they came and they said aut UK I said yeah he turned yourself in yes. They’re looking for my cousin my cousin continued to run. So I get on a bus and did you know where he was or where you know He just took off and he so I’m on a bus and I get back and the police come on the bus with my mother and my mother. Just the first thing. She says tell the truth.

Eugene Tell The Truth She Was

distraught. She she looked oh my goodness, Her face was distraught and just lost. I can still see that in your eyes the pain yeah so we get I was. I was arrested formally and taken to the Tonk Anik Pennsylvania, State Police Barracks and and gave a statement there and for summaries and I you know I I was talking about this the other day to some people. I said that I really thought tell the truth and go home that didn’t happen You know my mother’s there as your mom think that I don’t I don’t know I think she was just in shock with every detail that I told other of the what would happen.

I Think She Was Further Further

there were no details you did not know you didn’t even know why you were in the bar. You and your stepbrother did say okay we’ll meet. You robbed the place Yeah Was there any other detail that incriminated you in any way other than knowing well the felony homicide, knowing that there was a felony going on during a homicide or homicide happened during a felony and you knew about the felony. I knew about the felony which was the robbery Yeah okay so you go in and you tell the truth. You know to the police and they say stand up you’re under arrest for the murder of Isabelle Naggy and it’s just like what went through your mind.

I Think Immediately The Weight Of It.

Also the embarrassment I didn’t know the victim in any personal way. I’ve been to her bar before and drank as a seventeen-year-old I’ve been able to go in there so I just just superficially just hi and bye, but my mother the embarrassment family and then just trying. What every step was after they said stand up cuff me and start booking booking me and fingerprint me just was taken one step at a time and knowing I wasn’t going home and I heard the cop. I heard the police talking to State Police talking about taking me to juvenile center detention tell me a little bit about her first before we move on the victim victim sixty-year-old single woman no children and she owned a bar.

It Was Called The Marine Room

in at the time Lake Winona Pennsylvania that’s this about all I know I know a sister. She had a sister and she has some nephews They were jumping ahead. They were in my hearing when I was released and there’s a story behind that too that I found out when I was released so when you’ve been used a few minutes ago. Your eyes welled up and you they got very red again is there a day you do you don’t think of her or do you? I mean what it’s been decades now It’s really 41 years.

Not Left You No Absolutely Not Absolutely Not

so they book you they fingerprint you mm-hmm then what happens transport me about 30 minute ride to juvenile detention in Luzerne County never even heard of it. I never didn’t know where I was going so all just a few days before you’re thinking about sports at school yeah yeah working out training what were you going to do for life. What were you What what path did you at that time Things were there was a couple of things I liked welding. I took some shops welding something like that but I also had thought about going to Marines.

There Was A Good Friend.

Mine Rob Mancuso and we were talking about that and throughout our sophomore year about the possibility of going into Marines. So now you’re on the bus and what at that point, what do you think your life is going to be When you’re on the bus and you’re being transferred to juvenile you haven’t yeah, What are you thinking this is gonna be bad but I’m still gonna have my life MmM.

Summary

Jean 1977 how old were you 17 sophomore in high school, finishing up the year pretty good athlete football track girlfriend not at the time Mm-HmM and went out drinking one night with an older cousin.& He was 24 and went . out the door against my mother.&’s wishes pretty much but we sweet-talked her and about UK at night had no business being out that.& So he’s behind the wheel of the car.& A step brother, an older stepbrother drove us okay. We left the three of us left the . kitchen table drinking playing pool playing cards went shot some pool . My cousin wanna shoot some pool so we went to a local tavern and 20 minutes or so into shooting pool drinking shots he turns and says I’m gonna rob this. place to our surprise and he was serious and he . turned and said I’m . He was serious . Levi did and the idea was look We were not going to . rob the bar ….. Click here to read more and watch the full video