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religion of the Greeks and Romans, particularly in the context of war, the various rights that were enacted during war and then after a brief message from my sponsors the great courses plus so more of them. Later, I’m going to talk about whether I think that the ancients were actually religious actually believers in their various gods their their pagan Pantheon’s and so forth right so the first thing I’m going to talk about is Oracle‘s. Now there were quite a lot of Oracle’s you may have heard of Delfy well that was just one of many just within the Greek world and there were plenty of others in the Near East and dotted around the Mediterranean. So people had quite a wealth of choice. They could go to quite a lot of Oracle’s so being a really good Oracle.

Being An Accurate Oracle Was Was

you know something was to be boasted about and so that and the delphi’s does seem to have been a particularly highly regarded one and so that’s why it’s the most famous of the Greek ones. Now people would go to Oracle’s to ask all sorts of questions. Oracle will she marry me or Oracle will my business venture with all my cargoes in these in these ships, but will they will it go well. It’s a sort of question that might be asked, but it seems that the most common question that was asked or at least the common most common question that we have historical records for is Oracle if I’m only saying if I hypothetically just notionally you understand more saying I’m planning this or anything but if just possibly we were to go to war with with our immediate neighbors. With whom we have that agreement and how would the gods feel about that and all sorts of answers were given and they were usually extremely vague and requires quite a lot of interpretation, but they could be taken quite seriously.

Herodotus, For Instance, Tells Us That The Our

guys were positively thrown into a panic when they were given an Oracle, which suggested that they were going to lose against the Spartans. And there are all sorts of debates over the interpretation of things. What does the wooden wall mean? Doesn’t mean we should build a fortification out of wood, Although maybe a wooden wall refers to ships said the Athenians in regard to one the one Delphic Oracle that they were given so there you go Oracle don’t see any more about them now so and now the Spartan King would be for going to war He would. sacrifice in his own home, his king so his own home. It’s Special home either King to Zeus to see if going to war is approved off by you know the big guy and if the omens are favorable, then you would take the fire from the altar in his home and you would have probably have someone else to be honest carry it for him with the army as it would travel out of Sparta, and you would get as far as the border to Sparta and then you would stop and he would sacrifice again this time to his use and the Feeny and then if God he got the go-ahead from from both so he had three opportunities to call it all off and then he would cross the border out of Sparta and go to war.

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If The Omens Were Good So

if he wanted to look brilliant, but are the gods. The gods said that now wasn’t. good time he could he could sacrifice at home get the go-ahead March his army out look here really kingly and and I’m going to do this but I’ll know if Fini reckoned that maybe it’s not in you know this month it’s not not a good time so yeah if she’s against it you see what I mean it gives them a sort of religious get out clause so that in my own cynical interpretation of that ritual now before a battle there’s something called the here at the the hearer and the spa Jia was far Ghia I. There are loads of different ways of saying these words and I’m sure that somewhere a Greek has just died a little bit inside when you heard me say those words but anyway and now the the the high our rights were essentially an animal sacrifice. You’d get a something.

Typically Or Something Like Goat And

you would cut it open and you would look at the entrails and you look at the particular ones like that especially the liver that was a favorite. But there are certain Puglia ones that were meant to have more definitive power. This was divination. You’re asking the gods for a sign and for some reason at the time. People thought that the way that the gods found convenient to talk to man was through putting blemishes on the on the various organs of dead sheep.

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You Would Think That Given That

the gods were Greek they could speak Greek. They could just say because they think it to speak, but no no no entrails of the way Ford it’s so wonderfully vague so they would look at the inside and then they would perhaps take things and we’re having been inspected that they. would then burn them and see how they burnt and how they smelled and how the smoke went and by observing the way they burnt that this could give the Sears could could could read more into that and from this you would get some sort of message from the gods about whether you know war is a good idea or not particularly today doing things today and but the trouble with that right is it took rather a long time to do you know you’ve got slaughter go you’ve got a disemboweled it you look at everything you gotta burn stuff so for really quick sacrifices. They had these bleep ear I, which was essentially you get a knife and then you get your goat and you go and watch after you cut it’s a it’s it’s artery in its throat watch how it bleeds and how it behaves. At it’s bleeding and you could tell something from that and this could be done much more quickly and so you could be doing it at the very last minute, so even as troops were going into battle.

Sometimes Even After The Skirmishes Out

there the engaged a commander might look to his here and say right are we are cater to send all the troops in now it’s a good time. See it just give us a good sign come on give us a good sign and even at that moment the seer could say okay right here. We go and sometimes it seems it went a bit like this okay Yeah I’m gonna go with no I’m go with no the gods have seen that this isn’t quite the right time actually I want to try again well tell you what let’s just just give it ten minutes. Shall we all and I mean the situation may have changed. I’ll give the quick pray Oh no God.

Ten Minutes Later And All The

the wind seems to have changed no goodness. So the swallow in flight that you didn’t see what there was a swallow there. It’s not buying those trees now, but it was a swallow right okay. I think we’re we’re good to go for a second attempt and they used to go on campaign with fly box of sacrificial sheep now Of course these weren’t just for sacrificing to the gods. They’re also a very convenient way of carrying food because this is food that walks itself.

We Didnt Have To Carry At All Brilliant

it’s got legs and then you again okay and I’m going with now again. I’m gear sorry just but this is no no this is a. This is a 20-minute er. I mean Oh boy alright so and then 20 minutes later and did the whole Army‘s staring into it staring at him. At this point in oh you better get it better go right this time because they’re they’re almost upon us and so he would do good Ya know it’s it’s it’s hard it’s so gentle it’s going it’s all it had yes yes absolutely Oh yes wonderful and that’s no good Lord it’s me he’s on a snake there one what Oh as an ode twig it’s a twig good lord look.

Im Sure It Was A Snake Its

been turned into a twig so there’s God’s later I was sending signs and Oh yes well it’s fine it’s fine it’s fine everything’s fine go go now good go everyone. You’re doing you look great you look fierce Spears on them go go go guys and and have a good fight and so it’s a bit like it’s a bit like one of those UK referendums where the UK asks some country like I know Island or Denmark will you ratify this UK treaty and the the country folks know so then UK says okay we’ll give you another chance to get this right well. We have another referendum will you ratify this UK treaty. We mean no okay third time but this one’s the real one okay guys how about level and you just keep asking until you get the answer right and then when you do get the answer right you don’t get asked again it so where there were. It seems that once the signs are good great they’re good they wouldn’t have asked us here again.

Because Who To Know That Halfway

through the battle whilst all the men are engaged that the signs have changed yeah, you want to know that is it into battle everything’s fine that’s what you want to know and now another one is the vowel the vowel is it’s kind of good. One of these in Homer it’s a what you say is to change the gods. If you grant me victory in this battle I will do dot I will build you a temple I will sacrifice all these animals to you that’s the thing. Vale’s are great because it’s it’s a it’s like one of those solicitors who have a no win No Fee agreement you know if you lose the battle you owe the God nothing but if you win hey you get to crow about it you get to build a temple and show off to. Everyone and you getting in any and the caucus new to them and say at the same time that I’m divinely favored because look the gods favored me and there’s a there’s the proof look at that Temple, Oh, Yeah, Oh, Yeah and all the dedications inside Oh, yeah, I did those I’d those because the gods think I’m just fab so it’s quite a good one but even this one can go wrong.

For Instance, The Athenians Before The Battle Of

Marathon promised Artemis one goat sacrificed for every barbarian killed thing is that there are an awful lot of barbarians out there and the Athenians weren’t expecting there to be a big battle or were expecting to win or anything like that And then there was a battle and they absolutely annihilated the Persians at the Battle of Marathon and after the battle when they saw the enormous. Heaps of the enemy dead. They did a quick renegotiation with Artemis and they said, Oh how about okay not one for every how about a five hundred goats a year. You okay with that and okay is she yes yep yep she’s okay with that she’s absolutely no dummies.

Summary

In this video, I’m going to talk about the religion of the Greeks and Romans, particularly in the context of war, the various rights that were enacted during war and then after a brief message from my sponsors the great courses plus so more of them . Later, I’ll talk about whether I think that the ancients were actually religious actually believers in their various gods their their pagan Pantheon‘s and so forth right so that’s why it’s the most famous of the Greek ones. Being an accurate Oracle was was was you know something was to be boasted about and so that and the delphi’s does seem to have been a particularly highly regarded one . The most common question that was asked is Oracle if I’m only saying if I hypothetically just notionally just . notionally you understand more saying I’m planning this or anything but if just possibly we were to go to . go to war with with our immediate neighbors, but if I was planning this I’m not sure what it would do ….. Click here to read more and watch the full video