Should We Care About Jordan Peterson Dave Rubins Twitter Bans

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Jordan Peterson And Dave Rubin Are Banned From Twitter

What’s going on well nothing new there really it’s just they’re more of the same. I think no it. I was talking to with my co-host for trigonometry Francis about this in the studio today and I was saying, can you imagine that they’ve we’ve got to a point where to to state a historical fact about someone’s biography is now a crime essentially it’s at least in Twitter’s eyes you’re gonna get banned from a social media platform for stating historical fact about an individual which is what both Jordan and Dave have done here and I think it speaks to the situation that we’re in which is the ideology behind all of this it’s just become so perverse and has been allowed to run a mock so far that we live in this clown world and unless Elon Musk. able to take over and change some of this I don’t I don’t really see how how we’re gonna get out of it. Do you think Twitter is that important is a is it still the Town Square for public discourse.

I Do Think That And Of Course

you could say Well only whatever percent of the public even in Western countries are on Twitter and it’s true, but then that is where the discourse happens because most people aren’t on Twitter because they don’t want to be part of the discourse. They actually have you know jobs and kids and and things they actually want to achieve in their life instead of getting angry with each other. So I do think it’s the Public Square and I do think it’s really important and I also think it’s essential that correct principles are modeled in the space because the sort. of high culture discourse then leaks out into the rest of society and you see it You know in my former career of Comedy people now happily getting up in the middle of a gig and shouting stuff at comedians not in the old way where it used to be a sort of heckling and battling and that used to be fun. I really used to enjoy that but it’s like no they’ll go to complain to the people who run the club afterwards and demand that this comedian is never allowed to perform.

So It I Think The Sort

of behavior that’s modeled in this type of Public Square is actually really important and of course the rules they impose then get filtered down to other areas as well and other people feel well. You know if Twitter’s going to shut these people down well we’re allowed to shut. them down in real life with it you know not invite them to speak or ban them from speaking and so on so I do think it’s really really important actually yeah, so the culture of censorship on Twitter has more Downstream impacts. Perhaps one of the interesting things now is that tweets become news right previously people were tweeting about things that happened in the news, but now the news can be derived from what people tweeted so there’s this very sort of cyclical game so just for the people that haven’t seen it the actual tweet that Dave got suspended for there’s a difference between a suspension and a ban. The ban is if you would I think being completely removed from Twitter a suspension.

You Have To Do This Kind Of Struggle

session where you admit that the Tweet was wrong and delete the tweet and acknowledge. The fact that the Tweet broke terms of service but Dave’s tweet was um the insanity continues at Twitter. Jordan Peterson has been suspended for this tweet about Ellen Page. He just told me he will never delete the Tweet paging at Elon Musk and the warning from Twitter says he may not promote violence against threatening Iran for the people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender, identity, religious, affiliation, age, disability or serious disease, and that was enough to get Dave a strike yeah and there’s a couple of points. I pick up there.

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about the struggle session and it’s a really good reference because you’re talking about of course Soviet Union and China and this is exactly you know one of the things I talk about in the book I know we’ll get on to it. Later is how Soviet some of some of the things that we are now doing are because this is exactly what used to happen in the Soviet Union. If you wanted to if you made some kind of faux pas and you were not politically correct enough again as you know I talk about the origins of political correctness in the book then what you would have to do is you’d have to publicly come out and say I comrade you know and you’d have to give this whole speech about how you you’d messed up and this is what they make you do they make you sort of admit that you’ve done something wrong instead of just you know even just punishing you for breaking their rules. Even if as in this case, I I don’t think there’s any credible evidence that Dave Rubin was inciting violence or hatred. towards somebody by using a name that person used to use until about three seconds ago so dead naming is it seems like the thing that Dave’s been popped for there yeah well clearly and I It’s funny to me as well because I don’t know if you saw this obviously you’re in the UK now but in the UK.

We Have These Sort Of Supposed Conservative

parliamentarians the banned protesting too loud in public and one of the ministers tweeted about it saying finally we’ve put an end to the violent speech of Blah Blah Blah, and this was somebody was just using a megaphone in public right so even the conservatives are buying into all this because once you accept that words of violence this is an inevitable consequence. If you buy into this completely nonsensical Dogma the words are actual violence, then of course you know we. We do have laws and rules that are aim to prevent and regulate violence and so you’re gonna end up regulating people’s speech what’s happening people thank you very much for tuning in if you enjoyed that episode then press here for a selection of the best clips from the podcast over the last few weeks and Don’t forget to subscribe peace.

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Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin are banned from Twitter . Twitter is that important is a is it still the Town Square for public discourse. Do you think it’s the Public Square? We live in this clown world and unless Elon Musk.& able to take over and change some of this I don’t really see how how we’re gonna get out of it. I think it speaks to the situation that we’re in which is the ideology behind all of this it’s just become so perverse and has been allowed to run a mock so far that we live in a clown world. The sort of high culture discourse then leaks out into the rest of society and you see it. You know in my former career of Comedy people now happily getting up in the middle of a gig and shouting stuff at comedians not in the old way where it used to be a sort of heckling and battling and that used to been fun. I really used to enjoy that but it’s like no they’ll go to complain to the people who run the…. Click here to read more and watch the full video