Spiritual Practices Recovery Russell Brand on the Commune Podcast

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So When People Think Of Addiction They

think of alcoholism heroin addiction crack cocaine, but you have a much broader understanding of addiction. Yes it was shown to me. It’s that I think it’s the relationship between the inner and outerworld and those most obvious things like of heroin alcoholism substance misuse they are merely the most ever evident form of addiction. I think it’s an attachment belief that the material and external world can somehow resolve the problems of your inner life. Put more simply addiction is a behavior that you would like to stop and when you can’t when you try to you cannot addiction begins with pain and it ends with pain.

You Are In Pain You Practice You

whatever it is you do to get you away from the pain. Whether it’s pornography or food or sex or drugs, and then it leads to more pain. And then the cycle begins again so the I’m increasingly as I am taught more about the nature of addiction less and less interested in the object. It’s almost better to be a crackhead because if you are a crack, it it’s pretty clear what the problem is because you’re taking crack, so it’s a good entry point into the conversation conversation. If someone’s taking crack and I go what problem is could it be the crack no only if someone’s you know that so but with it someone codependency toxic relationships work you know this you come they’ll deny all the live long day think about it I found myself getting context where various forms of my addictive behavior were lionized.

You Know I Go Like If Youre

a 20-year-old a drama school in London and you are a heroin addict and you drink that’s a advantage. People think Oh my God this guy, He’s crazy something yeah, and until it’s not and it’s like he alright. There’s a lot of sick everywhere and he’s breaking all the windows yeah well. There’s this subtle insidious form of addiction like perhaps looking at myself in the mirror just wanting to be liked all the time Oh boy that’s exhausting yeah, but it’s a good isn’t it because it’s a signal that there something in you that wants to be fed and nurtured and the good news about the 12 steps and it’s that sounds kind of Christian. The goodness is the answers are coming.

The Lord Is Present.

He is within the resurrection will happen and it won’t be over there or be in here it will rise again. It won’t talk a little bit about yoga and it’s kind of spiritual and embodied practices because the 12-step. Obviously very very influential for you from a spiritual perspective, but I wonder what the relationship is between the 12-step in yoga and a little bit about the importance of yoga and your personal healing journey. Step 11.

If The 12 Steps Is Increase Conscious

contact with God of our understanding. The point of yoga is to prepare the body. You know I’m talking about Asana Yoga prepare the body for meditative state. So there’s an obvious corollary there around Step 11. My personal experience is I started doing yoga when I was in treatment to get off drugs.

The First Time Like Not Out Of

place. The place I got clean wasn’t that I’m proud to say fancy, but like I started doing the yoga classes outside and like so it took over my mom always said you should be doing yoga. I’ve got like sort of dark memories. People always telling me. The answer was gonna be meditation for me in spirituality, but I ploughed on with that heroin and crack and other people’s approval and all that stuff So yoga Why I like Yoga is because it’s an embodied physical practice and this the body is part of it and increasingly.

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I Think That Theres Line Between Consciousness

the body the spirit and the mind is an imaginary one. I mean I can’t find an exact point where neurology is distinct from the nervous. You know. I don’t know where that line is I don’t think there is a line so part of my deal is yoga part of my field is Brazilian Jujitsu like but the only things that I would start with confidently pass on and inculcate is 12 steps that’s the only thing because that’s the only thing that I 100% was sort of. Has like it works for me, but like I feel that there’s as many versions of recovery as there are addicts and I think we’re all addicts to some degree, and I think these twelve steps they’re like Shakespeare.

They Can Handle Interpretation.

They can handle people going well. I love Buddhists and I this way well. I’m an atheist. I want to do it this way we have radical feminists do we want to do it this way whatever it is you want to do this can handle you that’s why I like it.

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You Talked About Your First Mentor.

I believe his name was chip Summers. Yes Chum and I found it actually really really interesting how you described sort of the ideal conditions were met for mentorship to thrive like what are those ideal conditions for mentorship to be successful. I would have to say that the ideal conditions for mentorship to thrive is surrender and acceptance and honesty open-mindedness and willingness. These are the ideal conditions when I’m dealing with people with addiction issues in a sense.

It Becomes A Relief Once Youre In

the program once you’re on the other side. Because I go Oh you’re a heroin addict are you well here are the things you need to do. I don’t want to do that okay so what about you have you got a problem yeah yeah cause like this is not me. This is not my idea. This is you know relatively new for a theology that’s going to become as influential as I believe it’s going to become it’s.

You Know 70 80 Years Old Its

derived of courses I’m sure you’re aware from the theology of William James of Psychiatry of Carl Jung first. Christianity is espoused by like Emma Fox and there are some linguistic and I would say nomenclature problems as a result of that I am interested in the authoring of the vocabulary, so it becomes more appropriate and accessible. I’m not about demystification Buttrey mystification God is present in this there’s nothing without God in this, but it’s a heavily heavily car gold word these days.

Summary

When people think of addiction they think of alcoholism heroin addiction crack cocaine, but you have a much broader understanding of addiction . Addiction is a behavior that you would like to stop and when you can’t when you try to you cannot addiction begins with pain and it ends with pain.& I think it’s an attachment belief that the material and external world can somehow resolve the problems of your inner life.& It’s almost better to be a crackhead because if you are a crack, it it’s pretty clear what the problem is because you’re taking crack, so it’s a good entry point into the conversation conversation.& If someone’s taking crack and I go what problem is could it be the crack no only if someone’s you know that so but with it someone’s toxic relationships work you know this you come they’ll deny all the live long day think about it.& And then the cycle begins again so I’m increasingly as I am taught more about addiction less and less interested in the object…. Click here to read more and watch the full video