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Maddox operations, manager of Ancient Faith, Radio and Today I will be speaking with Dr. Steven Turley. Dr. Turley is the author of the book Awakening Wonder, a classical guide to truth goodness and beauty. Dr.

Turley Welcome To The Program Thank You

so much Bobby for having me so tell me about yourself. You’ve never met and are talking for the first time right now What is your day job and how did you come to be Orthodox oh wow those are two wonderful questions there. My day job is I am a educator at toll Oaks Classical school here in New Castle Delaware where I teach theology Greek in rhetoric. I have degrees in two fields of study, music and theology. As you can see I went where the money is and I found that in the course of my study.

That A Classical Christian Education Was

a world where those two disciplines just merged beautifully and something we might call theological aesthetics, which is just simply the interface between theology and the study of art and beauty and so. Since 2002 I’ve been expressing and developing this musical theology as it were with the help of these students and as a lecturer and as an author as well. In terms of Orthodoxy. This is about ten years ago, but the interesting thing with classical Christian education is in rediscovering the way we used to educate students. During the period of the church 1,500 years of Christian civilization.

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You Rediscover Classical Christianity And By Rediscovering Classical

Christianity. You inevitably rediscover the liturgical life world of the church, which is the focus the center place out of which flows all of these wonderful frames of reference that were teaching our students as classical Christian educators. So I just found that by encountering this liturgical life world of the Church that I had found really the origin. The center of much of what I was already teaching the students Oh, it was a perfect set and that was about 10 years ago. Yes and we’ll talk more in a second here about the intersection between classical education in Orthodox Christianity, but first why Don’t we talk about the book itself, what prompted you to write awakening wonder what was the inspiration well historically speaking, awakening Wonder was inextricably linked with these virtues.

These Cosmic Values Called Truth Goodness

and beauty and truth. Goodness and beauty were considered indispensable to. fostering genuine humanity and this is because it was believed in the classical world the Christian world that the original harmony of creation had been disrupted by Sin, death and the devil and that it was only in encountering truth. Goodness and beauty is restored in Christ that we could experience that original Zdenek harmony and thus become truly human and so I wrote the book so as to invite the reader to encounter truth goodness and beauty in such a way as to redeem the senses and sanctify the imagination to a more eden-like state. Now the book is called a classical guide now how does a classical guide or how does a guy differ from the usual nonfiction book well of course, two words there so classical has the specific meaning of that civilization characterized by Greek and Roman society during the periods of 500 UK and 500.

About A Thousand-Year Period, The Key Cities

were true Sillim Athens Rome where we today in the modern Western world derive much of our moral, philosophical and judicial frames of reference. All you have to do is go to you know see the monuments in Washington UK and see how much the classical world still influences us today, but more generally classical refers to the ways in which the world and culture were thought of before the rise of the modern age. I think we have to appreciate that before our modern world, human persons experienced reality in a very different way than we do. They believe the world was filled with divine meaning and purpose, and that humans were here to fulfill that meaning in purpose and and so this is what I mean by that classical element now the guide part is basically again. It’s an invitation.

For Us To Rediscover This World As It

was once thought of as an arena of divine wonder and all because that of course is the world that’s been redeemed in Christ as you mentioned the primary subject matter of awakening wonder Are these notions of truth, goodness and beauty. Perhaps you should define those terms for us and explain a little further why they are so important yes very simply truth, Goodness and beauty are historically considered what we might call cosmic values for the classical and Christian imaginations. The universe is filled with divine meaning and purpose and that meaning and purpose is communicated to the human person In three ways Truth, goodness and beauty. The term truth doesn’t refer so much to facts as it does to the nature of being. The nature of existence truth is that which defines reality itself goodness refers to the purpose.

The Goal Of All Things I Have

a good marriage if I’m fulfilling the purpose of marriage. I have a good clock. You know if it’s telling time and beauty is the allure. It’s the loveliness. It’s the delightfulness the delectable Ness the radiance of the true and the good that serves the indispensable role of momentum that draws me up toward an encounter with truth and goodness.

So In Other Words, Reality Is Not Just

true it’s not just good it’s beautiful as well. We all experience this with food right God didn’t create a world vitamins so we just take vitamins that keep us healthy and they do it well. No he made food and he made it delicious. It’s wonderful. It’s good.

I Smell It And Im Drawn To

that nutrition as it were and so the way truth goodness and beauty are communicated to us is. That each one of those cosmic values communicates uniquely to different aspects of my soul. So truth communicates divine meaning to my intellectual capacities. Goodness communicates divine meaning to my moral capacities and beauty communicates divine meaning to my aesthetic and artistic emotional capacities and the idea here is that by encountering the truth of in the beautiful my soul learns to love, what is truly lovely and desire, what is truly desirable and thereby live in a harmonious relationship with this divine meaning and purpose and thus experience human flourishing and this was considered absolutely important in the classical and Christian world. Because everyone believed that the human soul had fallen in some way the human soul had become debilitated disordered and it needed to be rightly put back together, and this is the purpose for education education was not there to help people get into a good college.

And Get A Good Job Those Are

all great things but fundamentally education shaped the intellectual, moral and aesthetic capacities of the human soul in a harmonious relationship that the cosmic values of truth, goodness and duty and this is where the Latins have the term virtue virtue is simply a balance soul that lived in harmony with this divine meaning and purpose and with our fellow men and hence perpetuated the life of the world. So truth goodness beauty of these cosmic values that awakened a balance within the intellectual, moral and aesthetic capacities of my soul that enabled me to become truly human and early Christianity. The early Church they conceded these notions in the same way they did and yet they radically altered them as well, and this is what’s so amazing with the Christian tradition, it affirms certainly that were born into a world of divine. meaning and purpose, but unlike the Greeks, it removes the center of that meaning and purpose from the stars and the Sun Moon and celestial spheres and places it’s squarely on Christ the logos the one in whom all things go here the one through whom all things were made. The one in whom all things are made new.

So Christ Now Becomes The Object

of our cosmic piety and they certainly affirm a tripartite soul of intellectual, moral and aesthetic capacities, but now they understand the human person is being created. Two Latins would say Imago Dei in the image of God or the econ to say you as the Greeks would say an icon of God and it’s really quite beautiful because they understood following the Septuagint that that term image of God it’s preceded by a different preposition in the Greek. It’s not so much in the image of God it’s. According to the image of God it’s concept acutally Kkona and the kata had to do with this uncreated in accordance with the image of God and the Greek Patristic s’ universally said that that image that I’m creating accordance with is the image of Christ. He is the image of the invisible God.

According To Colossians, He Is The Logos

the one in whom the whole world is held together. So the church sees the image of God and radically Christocentric Terms I was created not only. to participate in creation, but to participate in creation as it exemplifies the second person, the Trinity Christ himself and then they certainly have this idea of truth, goodness and beauty, but it’s not like Plato Plato sees eternal value. He sees it in this world of eternal ideas that are beautiful and good and true that yes my soul needs to be drawn up too but they don’t care anything about me they would never die for me.

You Know And The Created World Is Actually

an impediment for me to get to that truth, goodness and beauty, so we need to liberate the soul from the body and from the created order. Christians again radically change the truth. Goodness and beauty are now found in Christ, who is paradise restored in another themself The cross the sea is mystery of life restored. The rivers of Eden are seen.

As Restored In The Waters Of Baptism,

the grain and fruit to the 3rd day of creation become the bread and wine identified with the body and blood of our Lord so that creation and incarnation come together to restore our relationship with God and with one another and so what we’re seeing is with this paradise coming back. This new source is personal source of truth, goodness and beauty. Christ he actually comes and finds me in me and he draws me up to himself in a physics of love in a physics of grace. The physics of beauty and not just me but my body and the entire cosmos as well.

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So That Creation Is Affirmed As Being Good

and my soul belongs in this created order as it is drawn into the inner life of God through Christ that we call and theology the new creation so. Christians certainly tap into this whole idea of truth, goodness and beauty, but they radically alter it around Christ well speaking of Christianity, you begin your book with actually UK Lewis and his concern about the loss of truth, goodness and beauty in our time can you explain that concern for us yes fascinating here. He argues that the modern age in which we live represents nothing less than an entirely different kind of cosmos than the one I’ve been describing and he sees that modern science in many ways has replaced divine creation with impersonal nature. So

Summary

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