Steven Pinker Progress Despite Everything

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Im Very Pleased Today To Be Talking To

Dr. Steven Pinker from Harvard University He’s, the Johnstone family professor in the Department of Psychology there and has taught additionally at Stanford and UK. He’s, an experimental psychologist who conducts research in visual cognition, psycho-linguistics and social relations. Dr. .

Pinker Grew Up In Montreal And Earned His

UK fromNK] and his UK from Harvard. He. ‘s won numerous prizes for his research. His teaching and his nine books Including the language instinct how the mind works The blank slate the better angels of our nature and the sense of style. He’s.

An Elected Member Of The National Academy Of

Sciences, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a humanist of the Year, a recipient of nine honorary doctorates and one of foreign policies. World taught 100 public intellectuals and times 100 most influential people in the world today. He’s chair He’s, chair of the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary And writes frequently for the New York Times, The Guardian and other publications. Enlightenment now, the case for reason science, humanism and progress, was his tenth and best-selling book published in February 2018 and It’s very nice, by the way to have the opportunity to speak with you again, and thanks very much for making the time Thank You Jordan UK So, can I ask you it’s been about a year since we talked last I guess I’d like to ask you First of all, personally, what’s this year been like for you. You’ve become a much more controversial figure I would say than would really be predicted but you’ve always seemed to me to be a solid reliable interesting mainstream scientists not someone who would attract a tremendous amount of critical Attention and yet you’ve become well oddly.

Associated With The Intellectual Dark Web What

ever that happens to be and so much of what you’re doing is controversial and so, what’s that being like and what’s your life be like over the last? While Yeah, you wouldn’t think that a defensive reason science, humanism and progress would be incendiary and I’m hardly a flame thrower and.. and as you note I have put forward some pretty controversial ideas in the past, such as that. . .

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men and women aren’t indistinguishable and that we all Harbor some unsavory motives like Revenge and Dominance but saying the world has gotten better turns out to be a radical inflammatory hypothesis. There. . .

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. . . There are there’s first of all just sheer incredulity because the you of the world that you get from Journalism is so different from the view of the world when you get from data because journalism reports everything.

Everything That Goes Wrong It Doesnt Report Things

that go right, and so if they’re more things that go right every year.. There’s just no way of Learning about it. If you know the world from the papers and so there’s just sheer disbelief. I’m talking about there are intellectual factions that are committed to the idea that the world has never been worse than it is now and data on human progress undermines Some of their their foundational beliefs and then so that does attract some some opposition people think of it as a defense of neoliberal capitalism or a defense of the opposite, secular humanism.

Traditional Liberalism And So Does Get

some people exorcised Basically anyone if you’re a social critic. If your reputation comes on saying what’s going wrong about the current society. then You’re kind of committed to the idea that things have gotten gotten worse. And the idea that things are Not as bad as they used to be not as bad as they could be is an insult to that those core beliefs. YEah, well, it’s it’s a surprising thing because well and so so let’s let’s talk about that a little bit.

I Mean, Heres Some Of The Things

I know, I think I know and Maybe you could describe some of the things, you know. And like I started learning that the world had been improving when I worked for a UK committee about five years ago now and started looking at the data on Ecology and sustainable economic development and that’s like there’s some bad ecological news. I think that what we’re doing to the oceans is Fundamentally unforgivable and and foolish beyond belief, but there’s some ecological news. That’s of Surprising positivity like there is a paper published in Nature. Not so long ago Stating for example, that an area twice the size of the UK has greened in the last 15 years.

Think It Was Last 15 Or

20 years that actually happened to be as a consequence of increased carbon dioxide. Because Plants can keep their pores closed. If there’s more carbon dioxide and so they can live in more semi-arid areas and There’s more forests in the northern hemisphere than there were a hundred years ago and more forests in India and China Than There were 30 years ago. And then this has gone along with it massively improved Stan. .

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standard of living The Child mortality rate in Africa is now the same as it was in Europe in 1952, which is a statistic that I just regard is absolutely miraculous, the African economies are growing, sub-saharan African economies seem to be growing faster at the moment. stats are reliable then economies anywhere else in the world Partly because the Africans are getting connected electronically and have access to reasonable information into something Approximating let’s say stable currency alternatives, um. . .

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. . there’s people are the rate of poverty is diminishing at an amazing rate. Right, we have poverty Considering it at a dollar ninety a day between 2000 and 2012 and I.

Ve Read Criticisms Of That Saying Well

that was an arbitrary number, but if you look at $3.80 a day You see the same Decline. If you look at $7. 60 a day. You see the same decline not as precipitous and even the UK not known I would say for its optimistic Prognostications.

Estimates That At This Rate By The Year

2030 there won’t be anyone in the world Who’s living below the current poverty level SO.. . so there are some positive statistics so What. .

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. . what would you like to add to that Oh Yes, and those are all of those those numbers are reported in graphs in enlightenment now, but also what else Illiteracy is declining rates of . .

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of . . . Violent crime including violence against women and children are declining, child labor is declining.

Death And Warfare Is Declining How People Have

more leisure time. They have more access to small luxuries like ear and Reporting on plane fare, so it’s funny that that all of these Examples of human progress, which one would think indicate the attempt to make the world a better place. It’s not just do-gooding IT’s not romantic. IT’s not utopian. We really can improve the world if we set our minds to do it should-should around so much anger Partly because they people are so unused to thinking that things have gotten better,, but they confuse it.

Kinds Of Magical Thinking, Such As.

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That This Must Mean That There Is

a force in the universe that that Carries us ever upward that just makes progress happen by itself, which is the exact opposite to reality the universe. Not only doesn’t care about us. But as a number of features that are constantly pushing back at us like like like entropy like like pathogens Entropies a bad one Entry entropy is is the is the root of all human suffering SO here. This doesn’t care about us I’ve read to other things that are peculiar that are so interesting and well, okay, so first of all, um, It’s pretty hard on the Marxists. .

I Would Say Because Even Though There

is inequality and inequality is a problem. First of all, it doesn’t look like Inequality can be placed at the feet of capitalism. . IT seems to me to be a far more intractable problem than that second. It’s clear that the poor are getting richer despite the fact of inequality and third and this is hard on the environmentalists.

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I Think Is That It Turns

out that if you Get people’s income up to about five thousand dollars a year in terms of gross domestic product. They actually start to care about the environment. Which I suppose is because they’re not worried about dying. Instantly that day or that week and so we seem to be in this perverse situation for a pessimist where WE could make people wealthy and in in a positive manner, and WE could make the world a better place simultaneously, and that does seem to be very hard on ideologue, whose ideology is predicated on a Fundamental pessimism where you get the other people like the biologists do. This sometimes and say well, Yeah, we’re purchasing all this short-term prosperity.

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You Know For These Billions Of People, But

at the cost of some medium to long-term eventual precipitous, you know apocalyptic collapse and it’s very difficult to formulate an argument against that kind of idea because Well, you never know when some yeah, I think this is one of the thing tell him takes you to task for doesn’t he Yes, I even though I actually have pretty extensive coverage of the tail risks both in the better angels of our nature and in enlightenment now and and indeed we do we cannot take incremental improvement as itself an indication that the Risk of catastrophe is at an acceptable level it may not be .. . . IT’s very hard to estimate what the risk of it catastrophe is, but there are certainly some that we that we ought.

Take Very Seriously Youre.

On the other hand, the fact that you mentioned . . . Are often resisted by people in the green movement.

Im Just Going To Lean Down And

pick up my earbud, which rolled across the floor Ah,, but if anything it should give hope and succor to the environmental movement because it shows that it is not true that we have to choose between Economic growth which people do not want to give up and protecting the environment. That we can have both and indeed. There are some ways in which they go together. The nations that have done the most to clean up their environment.

In The Last Ten Years Are The

wealthiest nations because they can afford it. If you’re dirt-poor as you mentioned the your first Priority is putting food on the table and a roof over your head and the you know The. of the white Rhinoceros is pretty pretty low on your list of priorities. And you might be willing to put up with some smog in order to have electricity IT’s really awful to do (Without) electricity.

And I Know Having Visited Cities

like Mumbai, which are horribly polluted And and they are awful, but it would be much worse to not have any electricity Well. On the other hand, when you get more prosperous, then you willing to spring for the cleaner energy and you can afford the clean your energy and as you mentioned your values tend to climb a hierarchy and more long term. Future concerns loom larger in your value system. So it’s an odd Assumption that both the hard right and the hard green have in common Which is that if we want to protect the environment, we have to sacrifice Prosperity go back to a.

Simpler More Peasant Style Of Life,

the hard greens say well that we’ve got to give up modernity give up capitalism go back to what are you living off the land. The Hard right says well, I don’t want to do that. No one wants to do that So to hell.

Summary

Dr. Steven Pinker is an experimental psychologist who conducts research in visual cognition, psycho-linguistics and social relations . He’s, an elected member of the National Academy of Sciences, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a humanist of the Year, a recipient of nine honorary doctorates and one of foreign policies . Pinker: Enlightenment now, the case for reason science, humanism and progress, was his tenth and best-selling book published in February 2018 and it’s very nice, by the way to have the opportunity to speak with you again, and thanks very much for making the time Thank You Jordan UK. I’m very pleased today to be talking to Dr. Pinker from Harvard University. He’s chair of the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary and writes frequently for the New York Times, The Guardian and other publications. He’s won numerous prizes for his research and his nine books including the language instinct how the mind works and Enlightenment now ….. Click here to read more and watch the full video